[Cro Dreoilin] Some old business ...

[Greyhart]

Wow, I had completely forgotten this thread.

I'm not all that interested continuing the conversation. I have no problem
with Shaun, he simply had a different opinion than I.

Greyhart

-----Original Message-----
From: community-bounces at crodreoilin.org
[mailto:community-bounces at crodreoilin.org] On Behalf Of Chris Redmond
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:01 PM
To: community at crodreoilin.org
Cc: redmond at astronomytower.net
Subject: [Cro Dreoilin] Some old business ...

Hi, everyone.

A couple of months ago, there was a political discussion on this list 
that became rather heated.  That discussion ended, but was never really 
completely resolved.  It's come to our attention recently that part of 
that conversation was wrongfully blocked from the list, ending the 
subject with tempers still raised.  If we may beg your indulgence in 
revisiting some old business, we believe it would be good for all 
concerned to clear the air now.

The blocked message was due to our own mistake as list admins.  It turns 
out that the mailing list software we're using has some automated 
message processing rules which will divert certain messages to the 
moderator rather than going to the list.  We thought we had set up the 
list such that it would be completely unmoderated, so we didn't set up 
any way to be notified when a message had been added to a moderator 
queue.  As a result, a message from Shaun ended up stuck in that queue 
and we didn't even know it existed it until the topic was already long past.

We've said publicly that we didn't want to use moderation to control the 
conversations on this list, and that's effectively what we ended up 
doing (however inadvertently).  We've talked with Shaun and offered him 
our apologies for the mistake.  He asked us to post the following 
statement to the list, on his behalf:

Shaun Vavra wrote:
 >
 > Name calling never won anyone an argument and calling Greyhart racist
 > was very much out of character for me.  For me, I allowed my stress
 > about the whole political situation and what I'm going through get the
 > better of me.  Looking back now I can see why some folks might have a
 > different perspective and that had I taken the time to explain my
 > perspective without name calling, I would have made a better case.
 > Greyhart, I am so sorry for taking the kind of stance I did with you.
 > I feel very strongly about speaking my mind, but there must always be
 > compassion in everything that you say and do.  I hope we can come to
 > terms with this discussion and in the end find value in each other?
 >

We will also release the original (blocked) message to the list, so 
everyone will have a chance to read it.  Look for that message next up 
in the queue.  We join with Shaun in hoping that in revisiting this 
topic, we can mend fences and heal any remaining ill feelings.


Thanks everyone,
-- Chris and Kelley


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