[Cro Dreoilin] Up for Discussion: Do the Gods need worship?

[Sebastian]

In this context, need would imply a requisite to opening and maintaining a
relationship. Also, the "formal or ceremonious rendering of [.,.] honor and
homage" can take many forms and needs not be as solemn as I think this
definition implies. It may be the act of lighting a candle in a specific
place to a specific deity (to take an example from my own life).

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Kelley Forbes
<forbesk at astronomytower.net>wrote:

> Do you think they need "formal or ceremonious rendering of [...] honor and
> homage" in order to have relationship with you? What do you mean by "need"
> here?
>
> -- Kelley.
>
> Sebastian wrote:
>
>> In order to answer this question I admit that I checked the dicitonary
>> for a specific definition of "worship" to understand the nuances of that
>> term. There is the obvious connotation of prostrating before the gods which
>> seems to be why many pagans cringe at the term. However, there is one
>> possible definition that seems to answer this question of "what do you mean
>> by worship?" in my own perspective. "formal or ceremonious rendering of
>> [...] honor and homage". Now, on to the bigger question of need. If we
>> aproach need as the idea that without our worship of them that they would
>> fall into disrepair or that they are so proud that they require veneration
>> for sustenance, I would say no. My answer would come from the perspective
>> of building a relationship as you would with another person. In order to
>> build a healthy relationship with another human, there is an amount of give
>> and take, and this is where the "need" comes in to play. I wish to build a
>> strong, healthy relationship with the gods and ancestors and my half of the
>> give and take comes in the form of tanks, offerings, veneration and plain
>> "good ole fashion'd conversation". So, in short, if you desire not to have
>> a relationship with the gods, then no, they do not need worship.
>>  ~Sebastian
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Norman <planner1968 at yahoo.com <mailto:
>> planner1968 at yahoo.com>**> wrote:
>>
>>    I am on the jump to run my day today but here are a few cent of my
>>    thoughts on it. I do think that every deity needs attention. How
>>    does that look and what is considered worship/ attention? If I ask
>>    my deity for something and that's it, that in my opinion is not
>>    attention or worship or however you call it. It's more about
>>    paying more attention about the happenings,signs and
>>    communications in your life and how you engage with them. You
>>    thank your deities, maybe even write a little thank you note for a
>>    start. Just as you do with the people. Get into a dialog. At a
>>    later point I will write more but now on my way into the world
>>    conquering my kingdom:-)
>>
>>    Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>    On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Chris and Kelley
>>    <chris.n.kelley@**astronomytower.net<chris.n.kelley at astronomytower.net>
>>    <mailto:chris.n.kelley@**astronomytower.net<chris.n.kelley at astronomytower.net>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>    > In the interest of getting more discussion going on this list,
>>    we're going to start posting some topics for talk.
>>    >
>>    > Our first topic: Do the Gods need worship?
>>    >
>>    > This is not just a yes or no answer; there are lot of questions
>>    in this one question. Consider:  Which Gods are we talking about?
>>    What do we mean by "need"? What do we mean by "worship"?
>>    >
>>    > Have at it.
>>    >
>>    > -- Chris and Kelley.
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