In this context, need would imply a requisite to opening and maintaining a relationship. Also, the "formal or ceremonious rendering of [.,.] honor and homage" can take many forms and needs not be as solemn as I think this definition implies. It may be the act of lighting a candle in a specific place to a specific deity (to take an example from my own life).<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Kelley Forbes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:forbesk@astronomytower.net">forbesk@astronomytower.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Do you think they need "formal or ceremonious rendering of [...] honor and homage" in order to have relationship with you? What do you mean by "need" here?<br>
<br>-- Kelley.<br><br>Sebastian wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">In order to answer this question I admit that I checked the dicitonary for a specific definition of "worship" to understand the nuances of that term. There is the obvious connotation of prostrating before the gods which seems to be why many pagans cringe at the term. However, there is one possible definition that seems to answer this question of "what do you mean by worship?" in my own perspective. "formal or ceremonious rendering of [...] honor and homage". Now, on to the bigger question of need. If we aproach need as the idea that without our worship of them that they would fall into disrepair or that they are so proud that they require veneration for sustenance, I would say no. My answer would come from the perspective of building a relationship as you would with another person. In order to build a healthy relationship with another human, there is an amount of give and take, and this is where the "need" comes in to play. I wish to build a strong, healthy relationship with the gods and ancestors and my half of the give and take comes in the form of tanks, offerings, veneration and plain "good ole fashion'd conversation". So, in short, if you desire not to have a relationship with the gods, then no, they do not need worship.<br>
~Sebastian<br><br></div>
<div class="im">On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Norman <<a href="mailto:planner1968@yahoo.com" target="_blank">planner1968@yahoo.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:planner1968@yahoo.com" target="_blank">planner1968@yahoo.com</a>><u></u>> wrote:<br>
<br> I am on the jump to run my day today but here are a few cent of my<br> thoughts on it. I do think that every deity needs attention. How<br> does that look and what is considered worship/ attention? If I ask<br>
my deity for something and that's it, that in my opinion is not<br> attention or worship or however you call it. It's more about<br> paying more attention about the happenings,signs and<br> communications in your life and how you engage with them. You<br>
thank your deities, maybe even write a little thank you note for a<br> start. Just as you do with the people. Get into a dialog. At a<br> later point I will write more but now on my way into the world<br> conquering my kingdom:-)<br>
<br> Sent from my iPhone<br><br> On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Chris and Kelley<br> <<a href="mailto:chris.n.kelley@astronomytower.net" target="_blank">chris.n.kelley@<u></u>astronomytower.net</a><br></div>
<div class="im"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:chris.n.kelley@astronomytower.net" target="_blank">chris.n.kelley@<u></u>astronomytower.net</a>>> wrote:<br><br> > In the interest of getting more discussion going on this list,<br>
we're going to start posting some topics for talk.<br> ><br> > Our first topic: Do the Gods need worship?<br> ><br> > This is not just a yes or no answer; there are lot of questions<br> in this one question. Consider: Which Gods are we talking about?<br>
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