[Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article

Sun May 1 09:36:29 MDT 2011

What racist remarks? Is the term Birth Certificate a racial slur now?
On May 1, 2011 8:20 AM, "Shaun Vavra" <metalartvavra at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, I'm just calling a duck, a duck. I'm not going to sit by while others
> make racist remarks of contribute to the notion. It is when good people do
> nothing that we lose our humanity. "The only thing necessary for the
> triumph of evil is for *good men* (people) to *do nothing*." - Edmund
Burke
> (1729-1797).
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Joy Phelan <joy at frppd.org> wrote:
>
>> Shaun,
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t appreciate your attitude or tone. This is not a place to pick a
>> fight. If you cannot support your thoughts and opinions with clear,
concise
>> statements that invite discussion, then please don’t post. I don’t know
>> what your problem is with Greyhart, and frankly I don’t care, but I don’t
>> need to see it dramatized online.
>>
>>
>>
>> Abundant Blessings,
>>
>> ~Joy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* community-bounces at crodreoilin.org [mailto:
>> community-bounces at crodreoilin.org] *On Behalf Of *Shaun Vavra
>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:55 AM
>> *To:* community at crodreoilin.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, yep and yep... It is racist and hiding the fact means your condoning
>> it. If you don't understand, that is your problem.
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Sebastian <jsburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> @guenhwyfar
>>
>> I was unaware that there was any tax revenue generated by this wedding.
If
>> there wass a substantial amount of tax on this event, would you mind
citing
>> for me where you go that information (not being snide, just curious).
Also,
>> there has been a big to-do about royal weddings since there's been
royalty.
>> Prince William getting hitched is following tradition, not a PR move.
>>
>> Thank you Kyle for your post. I was just about to say the same thing, but
>> you go to the computer first.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Kyle Linklater <jklinklater2814 at gmail.com
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Sean, the same could be said about you. You are not answering the
question
>> put forth by Greyhart, but putting him down for asking a question.
>>
>> This is a discussion group. Let's discuss, and not attack for these
>> childish reasons. I personally think that mixing politics and religion is
a
>> mistake. This is why. Is it racist to ask for a proof of birth? Not
really.
>> It's the end reason that determines that. If someone asked me for my BC,
I'd
>> be a little confused as to why they might need it, but there are valid
>> reasons overall. And categorizing someone as racist for a question like
that
>> is in poor taste. I would then be able to put silly and probably untrue
>> labels on everyone in this discussion because of what they have said.
Will
>> I? No.
>>
>> Just sayin'...
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2011 11:32 PM, "Shaun Vavra" <metalartvavra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey greyhart,
>> >
>> > Is it that you want us to believe your confused? Ignorant? My guess is
>> > that you are neither and are quite happy to continue being racist. So,
>> > having a discussion with you would be like trying to convince Nixon
that
>> the
>> > ends doesn't justify the means.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Greyhart <greyhart at castle-luna.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I guess I’m confused. How does asking for a birth certificate make one
a
>> >> racist? Also, if no one is leading, how will anything get done?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Greyhart
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* community-bounces at crodreoilin.org [mailto:
>> >> community-bounces at crodreoilin.org] *On Behalf Of *Shaun Vavra
>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:33 AM
>> >>
>> >> *To:* community at crodreoilin.org
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It is amazing to me how much interest Americans seem to have for the
>> >> royals. I'm not a big fan of monarchs or the belief that we have to
>> support
>> >> them. To me it fosters the notion that some human beings deserve more
>> >> attention than others for the sake of birth alone. If you haven't
>> figured
>> >> out by now, we still live in a class based society and here in America
>> that
>> >> notion is very alive. We can have an idiot like trump get on national
TV
>> >> and ask our president to present his birth certificate to all. What a
>> >> racist! Frankly I'm tired of the crap that is going on and felt the
need
>> to
>> >> speak out about this. My hope is that some day we wont need monarchs,
we
>> >> wont need class elites to run our world and we can live closer to the
>> Earth
>> >> and respect one another for who we are.
>> >>
>> >> Shaun
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Sebastian <jsburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It's interesting that the author regularly brings up the idea that the
>> >> Prince is doing this to become a king of the kind that will ensure a
>> >> bountiful land, but does not consider how far back the mammoth cost of
>> the
>> >> wedding is going to impact Britain for years to come.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Gary Begordis <draken8000 at aol.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Probably making it up but perhaps at least taking some from the past.
>> One
>> >> can hope. I thought it was a really interesting article.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:22 PM, "Greyhart" <greyhart at castle-luna.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > The idea of a marriage to the land is certainly known by Wiccans.
>> >> >
>> >> > Having watched the wedding, I can say that there was a lot of sermon
>> >> > involved after the actual vows. The author also talked about how the
>> >> Druids
>> >> > are making a comeback in Britain, but since they are a revivalist
>> branch,
>> >> > not Reconstructionist, are they really reclaiming heritage, or
making
>> it
>> >> up?
>> >> >
>> >> > Greyhart
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: community-bounces at crodreoilin.org
>> >> > [mailto:community-bounces at crodreoilin.org] On Behalf Of Kelley
Forbes
>> >> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:31 PM
>> >> > To: community at crodreoilin.org
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, yeah, that happened today.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the link. The author definitely takes a Wiccan viewpoint,
>> but
>> >> > it brings up some interesting subject matter.
>> >> >
>> >> > One of the more interesting parts to me was the assertion that
>> Brittain
>> >> > "is actively reclaiming her heritage". Do you all think this is
true?
>> >> >
>> >> > -- Kelley.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Greyhart wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Today's royal wedding looked at from a different point of view.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying
>> >> > -the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1
>> >> >>
>> >> > <
>> >>
>>
http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin
>> >> > g-the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I had thought about this, but only because the wedding was the day
>> >> >> before my birthday.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Greyhart
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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