<p>What racist remarks? Is the term Birth Certificate a racial slur now?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 1, 2011 8:20 AM, "Shaun Vavra" <<a href="mailto:metalartvavra@gmail.com">metalartvavra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">> Hey, I'm just calling a duck, a duck. I'm not going to sit by while others<br>
> make racist remarks of contribute to the notion. It is when good people do<br>> nothing that we lose our humanity. "The only thing necessary for the<br>> triumph of evil is for *good men* (people) to *do nothing*." - Edmund Burke<br>
> (1729-1797).<br>> <br>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Joy Phelan <<a href="mailto:joy@frppd.org">joy@frppd.org</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> Shaun,<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> I don’t appreciate your attitude or tone. This is not a place to pick a<br>
>> fight. If you cannot support your thoughts and opinions with clear, concise<br>>> statements that invite discussion, then please don’t post. I don’t know<br>>> what your problem is with Greyhart, and frankly I don’t care, but I don’t<br>
>> need to see it dramatized online.<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Abundant Blessings,<br>>><br>>> ~Joy<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *From:* <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a> [mailto:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Shaun Vavra<br>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:55 AM<br>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Yep, yep and yep... It is racist and hiding the fact means your condoning<br>>> it. If you don't understand, that is your problem.<br>
>><br>>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Sebastian <<a href="mailto:jsburns@gmail.com">jsburns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> @guenhwyfar<br>>><br>>> I was unaware that there was any tax revenue generated by this wedding. If<br>
>> there wass a substantial amount of tax on this event, would you mind citing<br>>> for me where you go that information (not being snide, just curious). Also,<br>>> there has been a big to-do about royal weddings since there's been royalty.<br>
>> Prince William getting hitched is following tradition, not a PR move.<br>>><br>>> Thank you Kyle for your post. I was just about to say the same thing, but<br>>> you go to the computer first.<br>
>><br>>><br>>><br>>> On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Kyle Linklater <<a href="mailto:jklinklater2814@gmail.com">jklinklater2814@gmail.com</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Sean, the same could be said about you. You are not answering the question<br>
>> put forth by Greyhart, but putting him down for asking a question.<br>>><br>>> This is a discussion group. Let's discuss, and not attack for these<br>>> childish reasons. I personally think that mixing politics and religion is a<br>
>> mistake. This is why. Is it racist to ask for a proof of birth? Not really.<br>>> It's the end reason that determines that. If someone asked me for my BC, I'd<br>>> be a little confused as to why they might need it, but there are valid<br>
>> reasons overall. And categorizing someone as racist for a question like that<br>>> is in poor taste. I would then be able to put silly and probably untrue<br>>> labels on everyone in this discussion because of what they have said. Will<br>
>> I? No.<br>>><br>>> Just sayin'...<br>>><br>>> On Apr 30, 2011 11:32 PM, "Shaun Vavra" <<a href="mailto:metalartvavra@gmail.com">metalartvavra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> > Hey greyhart,<br>
>> ><br>>> > Is it that you want us to believe your confused? Ignorant? My guess is<br>>> > that you are neither and are quite happy to continue being racist. So,<br>>> > having a discussion with you would be like trying to convince Nixon that<br>
>> the<br>>> > ends doesn't justify the means.<br>>> ><br>>> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Greyhart <<a href="mailto:greyhart@castle-luna.com">greyhart@castle-luna.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> ><br>>> >> I guess I’m confused. How does asking for a birth certificate make one a<br>>> >> racist? Also, if no one is leading, how will anything get done?<br>>> >><br>
>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >> Greyhart<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >> *From:* <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a> [mailto:<br>
>> >> <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Shaun Vavra<br>>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:33 AM<br>>> >><br>
>> >> *To:* <a href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> >> *Subject:* Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >><br>
>> >> It is amazing to me how much interest Americans seem to have for the<br>>> >> royals. I'm not a big fan of monarchs or the belief that we have to<br>>> support<br>>> >> them. To me it fosters the notion that some human beings deserve more<br>
>> >> attention than others for the sake of birth alone. If you haven't<br>>> figured<br>>> >> out by now, we still live in a class based society and here in America<br>>> that<br>>> >> notion is very alive. We can have an idiot like trump get on national TV<br>
>> >> and ask our president to present his birth certificate to all. What a<br>>> >> racist! Frankly I'm tired of the crap that is going on and felt the need<br>>> to<br>>> >> speak out about this. My hope is that some day we wont need monarchs, we<br>
>> >> wont need class elites to run our world and we can live closer to the<br>>> Earth<br>>> >> and respect one another for who we are.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Shaun<br>>> >><br>
>> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Sebastian <<a href="mailto:jsburns@gmail.com">jsburns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> It's interesting that the author regularly brings up the idea that the<br>
>> >> Prince is doing this to become a king of the kind that will ensure a<br>>> >> bountiful land, but does not consider how far back the mammoth cost of<br>>> the<br>>> >> wedding is going to impact Britain for years to come.<br>
>> >><br>>> >> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Gary Begordis <<a href="mailto:draken8000@aol.com">draken8000@aol.com</a>><br>>> wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> Probably making it up but perhaps at least taking some from the past.<br>
>> One<br>>> >> can hope. I thought it was a really interesting article.<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> >> On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:22 PM, "Greyhart" <<a href="mailto:greyhart@castle-luna.com">greyhart@castle-luna.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> > The idea of a marriage to the land is certainly known by Wiccans.<br>>> >> ><br>>> >> > Having watched the wedding, I can say that there was a lot of sermon<br>
>> >> > involved after the actual vows. The author also talked about how the<br>>> >> Druids<br>>> >> > are making a comeback in Britain, but since they are a revivalist<br>>> branch,<br>
>> >> > not Reconstructionist, are they really reclaiming heritage, or making<br>>> it<br>>> >> up?<br>>> >> ><br>>> >> > Greyhart<br>>> >> ><br>
>> >> > -----Original Message-----<br>>> >> > From: <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> >> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>] On Behalf Of Kelley Forbes<br>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:31 PM<br>>> >> > To: <a href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<br>
>> >> ><br>>> >> > Oh, yeah, that happened today.<br>>> >> ><br>>> >> > Thanks for the link. The author definitely takes a Wiccan viewpoint,<br>>> but<br>>> >> > it brings up some interesting subject matter.<br>
>> >> ><br>>> >> > One of the more interesting parts to me was the assertion that<br>>> Brittain<br>>> >> > "is actively reclaiming her heritage". Do you all think this is true?<br>
>> >> ><br>>> >> > -- Kelley.<br>>> >> ><br>>> >> ><br>>> >> > Greyhart wrote:<br>>> >> >><br>>> >> >> Today's royal wedding looked at from a different point of view.<br>
>> >> >><br>>> >> >><br>>> >> ><br>>> >><br>>> <a href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying">http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying</a><br>
>> >> > -the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1<br>>> >> >><br>>> >> > <<br>>> >><br>>> <a href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin">http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin</a><br>
>> >> > g-the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1><br>>> >> >><br>>> >> >> I had thought about this, but only because the wedding was the day<br>>> >> >> before my birthday.<br>
>> >> >><br>>> >> >> Greyhart<br>>> >> >><br>>> >> >><br>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>> >> >><br>
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