Yes, definitely, you should follow the God(s) that you feel call to you, rather than the God(s) that your parents/family/what have you expect you to follow/worship. Like, Brad's parents expect him to be Christian but it was never really true to him.<br>
<br>However, I can understand the importance of stopping and checking ourselves for outside (say, Christian) moralistic views when it comes to approaching daily life and our Gods. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Greyhart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:greyhart@castle-luna.com">greyhart@castle-luna.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I think what both Sue and Katie are trying to get across, is that it is<br>
better to honor, worship, follow, whatever, the Gods who call you, rather<br>
than the God(s) your family expect(s) you to. I may be wrong on that, but<br>
that's what I'm getting from their posts.<br>
<br>
Greyhart<br>
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Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] "Shoulds"<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
I think wanting to do something is, truly, very important; it is, however,<br>
only peripherally related to what I was saying.<br>
<br>
There are different parts that "wanting" can play when we are talking about<br>
living up to our values. We can want something physically or emotionally or<br>
mentally or spiritually/philosophically. Sometimes those different wants<br>
can come into conflict. We can, for instance, choose to do something we<br>
would otherwise not want to do, because we also want to live up a certain<br>
set of values.<br>
<br>
The crux of it is that, even in this situation, we need to be able to say<br>
what value or values we are living up to. When we are specifically dealing<br>
with aesthetic wants and choices, if we find ourselves substituting the<br>
"because it will ..." phrase with " ... because I want to," too often, it<br>
can be an indication that we are masking moralistic behavior. In this case,<br>
"wanting" can mean the internalization of societal norms to the point that<br>
we can't separate our own choice from what we have been brought up to<br>
believe is true.<br>
<br>
<br>
-- Kelley.<br>
<br>
<br>
Katie Murphy wrote:<br>
> I like what Sue said about this. I think that doing something out of<br>
> obligation isn't as meaningful as doing something because you WANT to.<br>
><br>
> --Katie<br>
><br>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 3:21 PM, sue blackmore<br>
> <<a href="mailto:sblackmore1966@gmail.com">sblackmore1966@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:sblackmore1966@gmail.com">sblackmore1966@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> It has been said that the best reason to do anything is because we<br>
> want to. So we say please, step out of our comfort zone and<br>
> venerate our gods not because we should or its polite or the gods<br>
> need it but because we want to.<br>
><br>
> On Nov 20, 2011 3:08 PM, "Charlotte Blackwood"<br>
> <<a href="mailto:charlotte.blackwood@gmail.com">charlotte.blackwood@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:charlotte.blackwood@gmail.com">charlotte.blackwood@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> You are so cool :) Thanks for that email :)<br>
><br>
> On 11/20/11, Kelley Forbes <<a href="mailto:forbesk@astronomytower.net">forbesk@astronomytower.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:forbesk@astronomytower.net">forbesk@astronomytower.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
> > One interesting thing this topic of "needs" has me thinking<br>
> about is the<br>
> > place that "shoulds" have in our religion.<br>
> ><br>
> > In a values-based aesthetic, there are no independent<br>
> "should" actions<br>
> > or rules; there are no "thou shalts" or "thou shalt nots".<br>
> Every time<br>
> > you think of yourself as "having to" or "must" or "should<br>
> do", then you<br>
> > should be able to complete the phrase "because it will ____".<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > "I should open the door, because it is hospitable to do so."<br>
> ><br>
> > "I should say 'please', because I am acknowledging the right<br>
> of the<br>
> > person to say no, and that builds independence and community."<br>
> ><br>
> > "I should step out of my comfort zone, because it is<br>
> courageous."<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > If you catch yourself having a bunch of "should" thoughts<br>
> and not being<br>
> > able to complete that sentence, then you need to ask<br>
> yourself what<br>
> > ethics you are caring around with you that are someone<br>
> else's rules,<br>
> > most likely picked up from our decidedly moral-based culture.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -- Kelley.<br>
> ><br>
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