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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Shaun, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don’t appreciate your attitude or tone. This is not a place to pick a fight. If you cannot support your thoughts and opinions with clear, concise statements that invite discussion, then please don’t post. I don’t know what your problem is with Greyhart, and frankly I don’t care, but I don’t need to see it dramatized online. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Abundant Blessings, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>~</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'>Joy</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> community-bounces@crodreoilin.org [mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Shaun Vavra<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> community@crodreoilin.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yep, yep and yep... It is racist and hiding the fact means your condoning it. If you don't understand, that is your problem.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Sebastian <<a href="mailto:jsburns@gmail.com">jsburns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>@guenhwyfar<br><br>I was unaware that there was any tax revenue generated by this wedding. If there wass a substantial amount of tax on this event, would you mind citing for me where you go that information (not being snide, just curious). Also, there has been a big to-do about royal weddings since there's been royalty. Prince William getting hitched is following tradition, not a PR move.<br><br>Thank you Kyle for your post. I was just about to say the same thing, but you go to the computer first.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Kyle Linklater <<a href="mailto:jklinklater2814@gmail.com" target="_blank">jklinklater2814@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p>Sean, the same could be said about you. You are not answering the question put forth by Greyhart, but putting him down for asking a question.<o:p></o:p></p><p>This is a discussion group. Let's discuss, and not attack for these childish reasons. I personally think that mixing politics and religion is a mistake. This is why. Is it racist to ask for a proof of birth? Not really. It's the end reason that determines that. If someone asked me for my BC, I'd be a little confused as to why they might need it, but there are valid reasons overall. And categorizing someone as racist for a question like that is in poor taste. I would then be able to put silly and probably untrue labels on everyone in this discussion because of what they have said. Will I? No.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Just sayin'...<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 30, 2011 11:32 PM, "Shaun Vavra" <<a href="mailto:metalartvavra@gmail.com" target="_blank">metalartvavra@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Hey greyhart,<br>> <br>> Is it that you want us to believe your confused? Ignorant? My guess is<br>> that you are neither and are quite happy to continue being racist. So,<br>> having a discussion with you would be like trying to convince Nixon that the<br>> ends doesn't justify the means.<br>> <br>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Greyhart <<a href="mailto:greyhart@castle-luna.com" target="_blank">greyhart@castle-luna.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>>> I guess I’m confused. How does asking for a birth certificate make one a<br>>> racist? Also, if no one is leading, how will anything get done?<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> Greyhart<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> *From:* <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a> [mailto:<br>>> <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Shaun Vavra<br>>> *Sent:* Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:33 AM<br>>><br>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> *Subject:* Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> It is amazing to me how much interest Americans seem to have for the<br>>> royals. I'm not a big fan of monarchs or the belief that we have to support<br>>> them. To me it fosters the notion that some human beings deserve more<br>>> attention than others for the sake of birth alone. If you haven't figured<br>>> out by now, we still live in a class based society and here in America that<br>>> notion is very alive. We can have an idiot like trump get on national TV<br>>> and ask our president to present his birth certificate to all. What a<br>>> racist! Frankly I'm tired of the crap that is going on and felt the need to<br>>> speak out about this. My hope is that some day we wont need monarchs, we<br>>> wont need class elites to run our world and we can live closer to the Earth<br>>> and respect one another for who we are.<br>>><br>>> Shaun<br>>><br>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Sebastian <<a href="mailto:jsburns@gmail.com" target="_blank">jsburns@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> It's interesting that the author regularly brings up the idea that the<br>>> Prince is doing this to become a king of the kind that will ensure a<br>>> bountiful land, but does not consider how far back the mammoth cost of the<br>>> wedding is going to impact Britain for years to come.<br>>><br>>> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Gary Begordis <<a href="mailto:draken8000@aol.com" target="_blank">draken8000@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Probably making it up but perhaps at least taking some from the past. One<br>>> can hope. I thought it was a really interesting article.<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:22 PM, "Greyhart" <<a href="mailto:greyhart@castle-luna.com" target="_blank">greyhart@castle-luna.com</a>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> > The idea of a marriage to the land is certainly known by Wiccans.<br>>> ><br>>> > Having watched the wedding, I can say that there was a lot of sermon<br>>> > involved after the actual vows. The author also talked about how the<br>>> Druids<br>>> > are making a comeback in Britain, but since they are a revivalist branch,<br>>> > not Reconstructionist, are they really reclaiming heritage, or making it<br>>> up?<br>>> ><br>>> > Greyhart<br>>> ><br>>> > -----Original Message-----<br>>> > From: <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>] On Behalf Of Kelley Forbes<br>>> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:31 PM<br>>> > To: <a href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> > Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<br>>> ><br>>> > Oh, yeah, that happened today.<br>>> ><br>>> > Thanks for the link. The author definitely takes a Wiccan viewpoint, but<br>>> > it brings up some interesting subject matter.<br>>> ><br>>> > One of the more interesting parts to me was the assertion that Brittain<br>>> > "is actively reclaiming her heritage". Do you all think this is true?<br>>> ><br>>> > -- Kelley.<br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > Greyhart wrote:<br>>> >><br>>> >> Today's royal wedding looked at from a different point of view.<br>>> >><br>>> >><br>>> ><br>>> <a href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying" target="_blank">http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying</a><br>>> > -the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1<br>>> >><br>>> > <<br>>> <a href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin" target="_blank">http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin</a><br>>> > g-the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1><br>>> >><br>>> >> I had thought about this, but only because the wedding was the day<br>>> >> before my birthday.<br>>> >><br>>> >> Greyhart<br>>> >><br>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>> >><br>>> >> _______________________________________________<br>>> >> Community mailing list<br>>> >> <a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> >> <a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>>> >><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > _______________________________________________<br>>> > Community mailing list<br>>> > <a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> > <a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>>> ><br>>> ><br>>> > _______________________________________________<br>>> > Community mailing list<br>>> > <a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> > <a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Community mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Community mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Community mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><br>>><br>>><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org" target="_blank">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br><a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Community mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community@crodreoilin.org">Community@crodreoilin.org</a><br><a href="http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community" target="_blank">http://crodreoilin.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/community</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>