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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Donna Miller <dmiller@faerealm.com><br>
To: greyhart <greyhart@castle-luna.com>; community <community@crodreoilin.org><br>
Sent: Sat, Apr 30, 2011 6:43 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article<br>
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Grayhart,<br>
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I applied for a passport a few months back. I sent in my birth
certificate, the one my mother received when I was born, and they
rejected the birth certificate due to the lack of a raised seal. I
was born in western New York State and had to send to the county I
was born in for a birth certificate that has a raised seal. I
suspect a huge number of people born in the US have original birth
certificates that would be rejected now.<br>
<br>
This whole birther business, that Obama, born in Hawai'i, was not
born in the US because he doesn't have a valid birth certificate, is
mass hysteria and people need to get over it. Whether you like
Obama or not is your own business but if you accuse the president of
not being born in the US, then you may as well accuse a huge amount
of the population of the same. I don't know if it's racist,
political or whatever but it is plain and simply stupid.<br>
<br>
DSM<br>
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On 4/30/2011 6:32 PM, Greyhart wrote:
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: ">I guess I’m confused. How does asking for a birth
certificate make one a racist? Also, if no one is leading,
how will anything get done?</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: ">Greyhart</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: ">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Shaun Vavra<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting article</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">It is amazing
to me how much interest Americans seem to have for the
royals. I'm not a big fan of monarchs or the belief that we
have to support them. To me it fosters the notion that some
human beings deserve more attention than others for the sake
of birth alone. If you haven't figured out by now, we still
live in a class based society and here in America that notion
is very alive. We can have an idiot like trump get on
national TV and ask our president to present his birth
certificate to all. What a racist! Frankly I'm tired of the
crap that is going on and felt the need to speak out about
this. My hope is that some day we wont need monarchs, we wont
need class elites to run our world and we can live closer to
the Earth and respect one another for who we are.<br>
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Shaun</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM,
Sebastian <<a href="mailto:jsburns@gmail.com">jsburns@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">It's
interesting that the author regularly brings up the idea
that the Prince is doing this to become a king of the kind
that will ensure a bountiful land, but does not consider how
far back the mammoth cost of the wedding is going to impact
Britain for years to come.</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Gary
Begordis <<a href="mailto:draken8000@aol.com">draken8000@aol.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
<div class="MsoNormal">Probably making it up but perhaps at
least taking some from the past. One can hope. I thought
it was a really interesting article.</div>
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On Apr 29, 2011, at 10:22 PM, "Greyhart" <<a href="mailto:greyhart@castle-luna.com">greyhart@castle-luna.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> The idea of a marriage to the land is certainly
known by Wiccans.<br>
><br>
> Having watched the wedding, I can say that there
was a lot of sermon<br>
> involved after the actual vows. The author also
talked about how the Druids<br>
> are making a comeback in Britain, but since they
are a revivalist branch,<br>
> not Reconstructionist, are they really reclaiming
heritage, or making it up?<br>
><br>
> Greyhart<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:community-bounces@crodreoilin.org">community-bounces@crodreoilin.org</a>]
On Behalf Of Kelley Forbes<br>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 9:31 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:community@crodreoilin.org">community@crodreoilin.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] An interesting
article<br>
><br>
> Oh, yeah, that happened today.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for the link. The author definitely takes
a Wiccan viewpoint, but<br>
> it brings up some interesting subject matter.<br>
><br>
> One of the more interesting parts to me was the
assertion that Brittain<br>
> "is actively reclaiming her heritage". Do you all
think this is true?<br>
><br>
> -- Kelley.<br>
><br>
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> Greyhart wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Today's royal wedding looked at from a
different point of view.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
> <a target="_blank" href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying">http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marrying</a><br>
>
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>><br>
> <<a target="_blank" href="http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin">http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Royal-Wedding-Marryin</a><br>
>
g-the-Land-Star-Foster-04-28-2011?offset=0&max=1><br>
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>> I had thought about this, but only because
the wedding was the day<br>
>> before my birthday.<br>
>><br>
>> Greyhart<br>
>><br>
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