[Cro Dreoilin] Up for Discussion: Do the Gods need worship?

[Norman]

So maybe the portal remains but if I do not acknowledge it and it's not real for me does not really mean that it's not real in reality. Unless misread or missed something in the posts...

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On Nov 15, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Sebastian <jsburns at gmail.com> wrote:

> That kind of makes it seem like a cosmic game of peek-a-boo. Whether or not we are acknowledging their existence, I believe they would still be there.
> 
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Charlotte Blackwood <charlotte.blackwood at gmail.com> wrote:
> At the risk of exposing my Trekkie-ness, I recall an old-school
> episode that addressed this very question.  The episode's writer
> seemed to believe that gods need worship in order to exist, that they
> need the adoration similarly to what we need.  My personally opinion
> is that this is an anthromorphication (sp?).  I don't personally
> believe that gods NEED us to worship them, more of a "if you don't
> exist for me I don't exist for you"/ perception forming reality thing.
>  If you acknowledge them and honor them, you've opened a portal/
> connection and therefore have started a dialog of sorts, to which each
> side has the opportunity to communicate w/ the other.  Otherwise, the
> portal is closed for good or for bad.
> 
> On 11/15/11, Sebastian <jsburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In order to answer this question I admit that I checked the dicitonary for
> > a specific definition of "worship" to understand the nuances of that term.
> > There is the obvious connotation of prostrating before the gods which seems
> > to be why many pagans cringe at the term. However, there is one possible
> > definition that seems to answer this question of "what do you mean by
> > worship?" in my own perspective. "formal or ceremonious rendering of [...]
> > honor and homage". Now, on to the bigger question of need. If we aproach
> > need as the idea that without our worship of them that they would fall into
> > disrepair or that they are so proud that they require veneration for
> > sustenance, I would say no. My answer would come from the perspective of
> > building a relationship as you would with another person. In order to build
> > a healthy relationship with another human, there is an amount of give and
> > take, and this is where the "need" comes in to play. I wish to build a
> > strong, healthy relationship with the gods and ancestors and my half of the
> > give and take comes in the form of tanks, offerings, veneration and plain
> > "good ole fashion'd conversation". So, in short, if you desire not to have
> > a relationship with the gods, then no, they do not need worship.
> >
> > ~Sebastian
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Norman <planner1968 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am on the jump to run my day today but here are a few cent of my
> >> thoughts on it. I do think that every deity needs attention. How does that
> >> look and what is considered worship/ attention? If I ask my deity for
> >> something and that's it, that in my opinion is not attention or worship or
> >> however you call it. It's more about paying more attention about the
> >> happenings,signs and communications in your life and how you engage with
> >> them. You thank your deities, maybe even write a little thank you note for
> >> a start. Just as you do with the people. Get into a dialog. At a later
> >> point I will write more but now on my way into the world conquering my
> >> kingdom:-)
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Nov 15, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Chris and Kelley <
> >> chris.n.kelley at astronomytower.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > In the interest of getting more discussion going on this list, we're
> >> going to start posting some topics for talk.
> >> >
> >> > Our first topic: Do the Gods need worship?
> >> >
> >> > This is not just a yes or no answer; there are lot of questions in this
> >> one question. Consider:  Which Gods are we talking about? What do we mean
> >> by "need"? What do we mean by "worship"?
> >> >
> >> > Have at it.
> >> >
> >> > -- Chris and Kelley.
> >> >
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