[Cro Dreoilin] "Shoulds"

[Kelley Forbes]

For many, and probably originally, humility meant far more than simple 
honesty about oneself.  It is about being 'low' (from the Latin word 
"humus" - earth) and implies not engaging in prideful behavior (being 
"modest", not bragging) and giving respect and submission to one's 
"betters".  In other words, humility often means believing less of 
yourself than actually is true, or at least, giving off that impression. 
Even in the East, humility means the dissolution of the ego or giving up 
one's understanding of one's self as an independent being.

None of that is consistent with the values of the ancient Celts.

I am happy if you do not have such conditioning to overcome; beware that 
your "honesty" is not overly pejorative.


-- Kelley.

Donna Miller wrote:
> I have to say that I have been taught a different definition of 
> humility than what you have.  What I have been taught is that humility 
> /is /truthfulness about one's self and one's abilities.  What everyone 
> believes as humility is actually a form of self denigration.
>
> DSM
>
> On 12/5/2011 8:48 PM, Kelley Forbes wrote:
>> I would not say humility was one of the values of the pre-Christian 
>> Celts. Truthfulness about one's self and one's abilities, but not 
>> humility.
>>
>> Take pride in what you can, be honest about the rest, and don't worry 
>> about 'being humble'.
>>
>> -- Kelley.
>>
>>
>> Amanda Ochs wrote:
>>>  I believe one may be humble, but retain dignity.  I realize that 
>>> may seem like a contradiction in terms to our cultural worldview, 
>>> but genuine self respect seems to be part of the Celtic tradition in 
>>> what contact I have had with those gods. 
>>
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