[Cro Dreoilin] Calendars, was: Happy Lughnassadh!

[Charlotte Blackwood]

2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl:

http://www.amazon.com/2012-Return-Quetzalcoatl-Daniel-Pinchbeck/dp/1585425923/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1313171215&sr=1-6
REALLY rambling book, he talks about taking hallucinogenic drugs in one
sentence, then crop circles, then his failed relationships, lather/ rinse/
repeat.  It's an interesting food-for-thought fun-read more than anything
else, IMHO :)  With all of the talk about Elenin/ Honda/ etc., these days, I
thought it was odd that I just randomly was drawn to this book the last
time I was at the library :)
On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Kelley Forbes
<forbesk at astronomytower.net>wrote:

> That sounds like an interesting book; what is the title?
>
> The lunar calendar can be more accurate, but it depends on what you mean by
> more accurate. A lunar calendar is certainly more accurate at predicting
> tides, but less accurate at predicting seasonal variations, like the
> agricultural cycle. I think the reason those lunar calendars don't need leap
> days is because they ignore the relation of the months with the solar year.
> The months continue on in the same order, continuing to move about the solar
> year until, 19 years later, they come back around to the same place.
>
> The Coligny calendar is a lunar-solar calendar; that is, it uses lunar
> months but reconciles them to the solar year. One interesting thing about
> that is that the method used to compute the calendar shows that the Gauls
> must have had mathematics equivalent to algebra.
>
> -- Kelley.
>
> Charlotte Blackwood wrote:
>
>> VERY cool reading!  Thanks for sharing this info :)  On a related
>> note, I just read a book about many folks (not just pagan) are
>> starting to return to lunar-based calendars instead of the solar-based
>> one.  The book mentioned that a lunar-based calendar is more accurate
>> (as in doesn't need to correct w/ leap-years, etc.).  Thoughts?
>>
>> Charlotte
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Kelley Forbes
>> <forbesk at astronomytower.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Actually, there is evidence for a lot of different timings.
>>>
>>> There is what we call the calendrical days, come down to us through
>>> folklore, both new (the firsts) and old (about 12 days later). There are
>>> the
>>> natural signs, like we posted about on the second. There is the
>>> "astronomical" date, halfway in between the surrounding equinox and
>>> solstice. There is evidence from the Coligny calendar that lunar cycles
>>> may
>>> have been involved, for at least some tribes. No doubt, practical
>>> considerations played a part, too. Some festivals, like Lughnassadh, were
>>> held over many days, and as the harvest came in at different places,
>>> people
>>> would travel to the games.
>>>
>>> -- Kelley.
>>>
>>> Sue Blackmore wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Christianity kind of took over all the old feasts. I heard somewhere
>>>> that
>>>> originally they coincided with happenings in the natural world =
>>>> Lughnassadh
>>>> being timed with the harvest and not necessarily on the same calendar
>>>> day
>>>> each year. Since we aren't as agrarian as our forefathers that timing
>>>> doesn't mean as much to us any more.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: community-bounces at crodreoilin.**org<community-bounces at crodreoilin.org>
>>>> [mailto:community-bounces@**crodreoilin.org<community-bounces at crodreoilin.org>]
>>>> On Behalf Of Kelley Forbes
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 10:09 PM
>>>> To: community at crodreoilin.org
>>>> Cc: Kelley Forbes
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cro Dreoilin] Happy Lughnassadh!
>>>>
>>>> I have seen both, but I think 1 August is more common.
>>>>
>>>> The first of the month is the default; Imbolg/Lá /Féile/ Bríde is the
>>>> lone
>>>> exception, because it was timed coincide with the Feast of the
>>>> Purification,
>>>> which must be exactly 40 days after Christmas, as that was when Mary was
>>>> considered no longer unclean after childbirth and could return to the
>>>> temple.
>>>>
>>>> -- Kelley.
>>>>
>>>> Greyhart wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I was surprised to get the email yesterday for Lughnassadh, because I
>>>>> have
>>>>> always celebrated it on Aug. 2nd. Just as Imbolc is February 2nd, it's
>>>>> counterpart across the year would be August 2nd. I never knew there was
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> any
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> other date for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greyhart
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: community-bounces at crodreoilin.**org<community-bounces at crodreoilin.org>
>>>>> [mailto:community-bounces@**crodreoilin.org<community-bounces at crodreoilin.org>]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Kelley Forbes
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 4:17 PM
>>>>> To: community at crodreoilin.org; Kelley Forbes
>>>>> Subject: [Cro Dreoilin] Happy Lughnassadh!
>>>>>
>>>>> As we sit in the gentle rain and hear far-off thunder, having completed
>>>>> our own personal haying and having seen the bales all over the region,
>>>>> we
>>>>> wish you all a wonderful, restful natural Lughnassadh. Take a moment to
>>>>> appreciate the singular nature of the changing of the seasons!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Chris and Kelley.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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